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		<title>By: Unschooling Gaining Mainstream Media Attention &#124; SpottyBanana</title>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, you may excel in science and math, but you&#039;re history skills are lacking. The very concept of public education is fairly new in the grand scheme of things. The great scientists and writers of history most likely were tutored privately at home or attended small group classes. I was public school educated in all honors and AP classes just like you and I can still see that the public school model is a failed experiment. While I made it through with a quality education, it was only because I fought for it. Most children graduate high school these days are not as lucky as I was. And my children are not going to be subject to that chance, while I sit at home hoping that eventually public education &quot;gets better.&quot;

As far as the home school socializing argument, really? Still holding onto that one? Home schooled kids spend more of their day out in the world, among people of many ages and walks of lives. Public school children, on the other hand, live in an artificial social situation where all the other kids are the same age and generally live in the same neighborhood. This isn&#039;t realistic--as soon as they are out of school, they will be forced to live, work, and socialize with people of all different ages and backgrounds. And yet, for some reason, people still try to argue that it&#039;s the home schooled children who are missing out socially. I&#039;ll never comprehend that argument. My 3 year old takes swim lessons along side 10 year olds. My 5 year old is on a cheer squad with kids of all ages and dances with kids from all different schools--seriously, in her class of 10, not any two kids attend the same school. My kids also participate in activities alongside adults and can carry on a decent conversation with a 45 year old woman. But if you say it&#039;s my kids that are lacking socially, I&#039;ll let you keep on believing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, you may excel in science and math, but you&#8217;re history skills are lacking. The very concept of public education is fairly new in the grand scheme of things. The great scientists and writers of history most likely were tutored privately at home or attended small group classes. I was public school educated in all honors and AP classes just like you and I can still see that the public school model is a failed experiment. While I made it through with a quality education, it was only because I fought for it. Most children graduate high school these days are not as lucky as I was. And my children are not going to be subject to that chance, while I sit at home hoping that eventually public education &#8220;gets better.&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as the home school socializing argument, really? Still holding onto that one? Home schooled kids spend more of their day out in the world, among people of many ages and walks of lives. Public school children, on the other hand, live in an artificial social situation where all the other kids are the same age and generally live in the same neighborhood. This isn&#8217;t realistic&#8211;as soon as they are out of school, they will be forced to live, work, and socialize with people of all different ages and backgrounds. And yet, for some reason, people still try to argue that it&#8217;s the home schooled children who are missing out socially. I&#8217;ll never comprehend that argument. My 3 year old takes swim lessons along side 10 year olds. My 5 year old is on a cheer squad with kids of all ages and dances with kids from all different schools&#8211;seriously, in her class of 10, not any two kids attend the same school. My kids also participate in activities alongside adults and can carry on a decent conversation with a 45 year old woman. But if you say it&#8217;s my kids that are lacking socially, I&#8217;ll let you keep on believing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2011 20:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do tell my daughter she is in a grade level, simply because at church they are split up by grade, not age. It&#039;s easiest for everyone involved if she can show up in the first grade Sunday school classroom without any confusion, KWIM? We do NOT, however, use grade levels when we pick and choose curriculum. We use whatever fits her ability per subject. For first grade, we&#039;re using stuff that&#039;s labeled everywhere from Kindergarten to third grade. It just depends on the subject. My favorite thing about home schooling is not trying to fit education into a neat little box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do tell my daughter she is in a grade level, simply because at church they are split up by grade, not age. It&#8217;s easiest for everyone involved if she can show up in the first grade Sunday school classroom without any confusion, KWIM? We do NOT, however, use grade levels when we pick and choose curriculum. We use whatever fits her ability per subject. For first grade, we&#8217;re using stuff that&#8217;s labeled everywhere from Kindergarten to third grade. It just depends on the subject. My favorite thing about home schooling is not trying to fit education into a neat little box.</p>
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		<title>By: ginac</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Lauren.  It is always good to hear from someone who&#039;s been a homeschooling student! Homeschooling definitely isn&#039;t for everyone -- it&#039;s just an option that many people around the world choose for very different reasons.  Whatever the reason, it is important to take advantage of the flexibility.  I&#039;m glad to hear you have the love of learning that&#039;s lost to many young people by the time they reach adulthood.  Life long learners are the folks that&#039;ll embrace the inevitable and rapid changes the world faces, ready to learn what is needed to solve problems!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Lauren.  It is always good to hear from someone who&#8217;s been a homeschooling student! Homeschooling definitely isn&#8217;t for everyone &#8212; it&#8217;s just an option that many people around the world choose for very different reasons.  Whatever the reason, it is important to take advantage of the flexibility.  I&#8217;m glad to hear you have the love of learning that&#8217;s lost to many young people by the time they reach adulthood.  Life long learners are the folks that&#8217;ll embrace the inevitable and rapid changes the world faces, ready to learn what is needed to solve problems!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 05:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously- why would someone think you were the insane one&#039;s when they are the only commenter to make derogatory and negative statements? I am completely taken aback by people&#039;s reactions to the idea sometimes. I was home schooled through high-school in the LA area and have always faced stereotyping towards my education; despite the fact that I always found myself ahead of my public schooled peers in academic work and testing. Although I missed out on certain aspects of going to a public school, i.e. prom, sports teams, ASB etc. I find upon looking back that it was worth it to  work at my own pace and start taking classes at the community college to earn college credit while graduating High school. I have never lacked in social dealings/skills and have never in my life even had someone ask me if I was home schooled - all while ALWAYS maintaining a very independent and unique outlook on life. The love of learning I have been bestowed with will stay with me forever, and I will always be proud of the fact that I can read anna karenina in a month flat. Its an offensive and difficult world for those who choose to take more &#039;scenic&#039; routes of life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously- why would someone think you were the insane one&#8217;s when they are the only commenter to make derogatory and negative statements? I am completely taken aback by people&#8217;s reactions to the idea sometimes. I was home schooled through high-school in the LA area and have always faced stereotyping towards my education; despite the fact that I always found myself ahead of my public schooled peers in academic work and testing. Although I missed out on certain aspects of going to a public school, i.e. prom, sports teams, ASB etc. I find upon looking back that it was worth it to  work at my own pace and start taking classes at the community college to earn college credit while graduating High school. I have never lacked in social dealings/skills and have never in my life even had someone ask me if I was home schooled &#8211; all while ALWAYS maintaining a very independent and unique outlook on life. The love of learning I have been bestowed with will stay with me forever, and I will always be proud of the fact that I can read anna karenina in a month flat. Its an offensive and difficult world for those who choose to take more &#8216;scenic&#8217; routes of life!</p>
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		<title>By: ginac</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,

Thanks for weighing in honestly.  Glaring and mean-spirited generalizations aside, I&#039;d like to address some of your points for clarification, though, as you&#039;re missing the point of the article.  First of all, this article isn&#039;t about public school vs. homeschool.  The purpose of this post (and this blog) is to share ideas about child-led, project-based learning.  This article reminds homeschool parents that they have much greater flexibility and autonomy about learning methods that simply aren&#039;t available to public schools due to scale and safety issues.  I think it would be fabulous if public schools adopted this approach!

We&#039;re proponents of child-led, project based learning and believe that children who have the benefit of one-on-one attention will embrace lifelong learning through a non-curriculum system.  By the way, many great scientists (Einstein and Edison) were told by the school system that they weren&#039;t fit for school so they dropped out! In Edison&#039;s case, he was homeschooled after being rejected by the public education system.  Einstein later wrote about how the education &#039;system&#039; destroys creative thinking.

Many homeschoolers actually participate in public schools for portions of their education and aren&#039;t the arrogent social delinquents you imagine.  I&#039;m sorry you have so much hostility toward such an open-minded idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,</p>
<p>Thanks for weighing in honestly.  Glaring and mean-spirited generalizations aside, I&#8217;d like to address some of your points for clarification, though, as you&#8217;re missing the point of the article.  First of all, this article isn&#8217;t about public school vs. homeschool.  The purpose of this post (and this blog) is to share ideas about child-led, project-based learning.  This article reminds homeschool parents that they have much greater flexibility and autonomy about learning methods that simply aren&#8217;t available to public schools due to scale and safety issues.  I think it would be fabulous if public schools adopted this approach!</p>
<p>We&#8217;re proponents of child-led, project based learning and believe that children who have the benefit of one-on-one attention will embrace lifelong learning through a non-curriculum system.  By the way, many great scientists (Einstein and Edison) were told by the school system that they weren&#8217;t fit for school so they dropped out! In Edison&#8217;s case, he was homeschooled after being rejected by the public education system.  Einstein later wrote about how the education &#8216;system&#8217; destroys creative thinking.</p>
<p>Many homeschoolers actually participate in public schools for portions of their education and aren&#8217;t the arrogent social delinquents you imagine.  I&#8217;m sorry you have so much hostility toward such an open-minded idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to troll, but you people are insane. This is exactly why homeschool kids are always socially delinquent... they think that 100 percent of learning is done in the classroom. They are also usually uniformly arrogant about their &quot;abilities.&quot; I have always been in honors classes in school and I have never met an ex homeschool kid that can do better than me at physics, mathematics, or literature. You can&#039;t open your mind by classwork. You do it by doing new things and meeting new people. The great scientists and writers of the past &quot;had to&quot; go through this so called rigid and uncompromising system. Sure public education isn&#039;t perfect but instead of trashing it, why don&#039;t we work to improve it?

p.s. I think it&#039;s a good idea to take an honest look at yourselves when you start being so arrogant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to troll, but you people are insane. This is exactly why homeschool kids are always socially delinquent&#8230; they think that 100 percent of learning is done in the classroom. They are also usually uniformly arrogant about their &#8220;abilities.&#8221; I have always been in honors classes in school and I have never met an ex homeschool kid that can do better than me at physics, mathematics, or literature. You can&#8217;t open your mind by classwork. You do it by doing new things and meeting new people. The great scientists and writers of the past &#8220;had to&#8221; go through this so called rigid and uncompromising system. Sure public education isn&#8217;t perfect but instead of trashing it, why don&#8217;t we work to improve it?</p>
<p>p.s. I think it&#8217;s a good idea to take an honest look at yourselves when you start being so arrogant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 06:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was JUST saying this afternoon that one of the MANY things I love about homeschooling my girls is the ability to change at the drop of a hat. I realized she hadn&#039;t internalized a concept in her state accepted grade level, so we just dropped back and had fun practicing. She knows it now, inside and out, but no one else would have caught it. I teach multiple &quot;grades&quot; in ONE curriculum and just tailor things here or there to their ability level, not grade. Thanks for this!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was JUST saying this afternoon that one of the MANY things I love about homeschooling my girls is the ability to change at the drop of a hat. I realized she hadn&#8217;t internalized a concept in her state accepted grade level, so we just dropped back and had fun practicing. She knows it now, inside and out, but no one else would have caught it. I teach multiple &#8220;grades&#8221; in ONE curriculum and just tailor things here or there to their ability level, not grade. Thanks for this!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2011 14:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A stranger asked my son what grade he was in, and he answered &quot;Which subject?&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A stranger asked my son what grade he was in, and he answered &#8220;Which subject?&#8221; <img src='http://spottybanana.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ginac</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 17:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MInTheGap,

Although the state may require grade level reporting, students can still interact with learning materials below and above the reported grade.  Once you adopt the learning approach instead of the teaching approach, grade level becomes irrelevant (to the learning process) in spite of the grade-level label required by the state.  Children who become deeply engaged in learning will learn well beyond state requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MInTheGap,</p>
<p>Although the state may require grade level reporting, students can still interact with learning materials below and above the reported grade.  Once you adopt the learning approach instead of the teaching approach, grade level becomes irrelevant (to the learning process) in spite of the grade-level label required by the state.  Children who become deeply engaged in learning will learn well beyond state requirements.</p>
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